One of the biggest things that has changed in the last week is my attitude toward this horse. I don't think it will last forever, but I'm feeling tentatively positive. I think he's a good horse with some behavior issues (like most horses have at one point or another) and that I just lack confidence about them, which, along with the suspensory and not living out for so long, has made them worse.
I sat down with myself last week and basically told myself that either I turn into the rider that he needs me to be, or I sell him. So I contacted a trainer friend about him and then as you know, started playing with him last week to get him fit so that people could try him, and realized that he had calmed down a bit with the new living situation, boosting my confidence.
I'm not silly enough to think that this is it, that he's fixed and that I'll feel confident on him forever, but I'm just trying to enjoy him for now. The more training I can put on him now when he's good, the better he'll land later on if I have to sell him. Or with more training and keeping my confidence up, I can keep him. I dunno, I'm not married to either idea. I just want to enjoy him if I am riding him.
And part of enjoying him was taking a lesson on Monday morning, which sadly didn't end up being the magical fun dressage time that I had hoped it would, but was still somewhat useful. What I didn't realize is how picky I needed to be with instructors. It turns out that I've gotten even more obnoxious about how I like to be taught now that I have TC, versus Rico who was generally a solid citizen, and now that I'm not the rider I used to be. I thought it'd get easier if I wasn't as good and if my horse was at a lower level, but it's not.
| I LOVE riding outside, until it gets hot or I miss the mirrors |
I first need to say that my not-that-great lesson probably occurred because of how I introduced my horse. I wanted to be honest and admit to my fear problems and TC's history (and likely future) of bolting. Because when I teach a new student, I err on the side of treating them like they don't have fear issues and that the horse doesn't have behavioral issues until they let me know, which has lead to some tears on their part. I always tell people- PLEASE let me know anything I need to know, such as past issues, fear issues, soundness issues. So I'm pretty honest about these things with new instructors.
But it can really paint the way you are perceived, and that's what happened this weekend. When I say things like "he does have a bolt in him and it does scare me, but he's doing much better and I'm actually not scared right now," some people are going to stop before the but and ignore the part where he's actually doing well right now and I'm not looking for a fix on something that he's not currently doing.
Add to that the horse's unfortunate reputation at my barn for being a nut, and horse people's general desire to gossip, and I had a lesson that probably was better suited for how he was going a few months ago when I was actively having bolting problems. He certainly still has it in him and I'm not stupid, I know he's going to do it again, but I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt and trusting him a bit more. Riding defensively with him just makes him worse. Assuming he's going to bolt almost guarantees that he does it.
And he was SO GOOD. Let me go over that first before I get back to complaining. We rode real early, which he's not used to (and the time change made it worse). It was cold and he hadn't had his breakfast, so he wasn't perfect, but he was so good. A little looky and I probably should have cantered earlier in the lesson since that wears him out a bit and he chills out. Oh well, hind sight and all that.
His shoulder-in felt great, I kept up my work to get him more rideable in it as we went along. I need to be able to change the angle, the bend, the connection, the step, etc. He kind of clunks into it and stays put. That's great, because it means that he isn't wiggling about or resisting me, but it also means that as I get his gaits going better, he's going to stay the same in the lateral work. He'll be this fancy looking horse on the short side, then he'll dump into his smaller trot for the lateral work. I need rideability.
| I love this. I heard a noise and he was freaking out. Apparently he got his tail stuck on my jacket button and I found him like this |
The leg yields are the same way, I want to get him just more rideable in them. I find it a bit harder in the leg yield to do that work, since in shoulder-in I don't lose the angle so much when I ask him to bend more, but the leg yield just isn't meant to have tons of bend. I think when we can do half pass, leg yield to half pass transitions will be our friend.
The canter felt great. She had me ride more over the ground, which made me smile. I love that we've flipped on this issue. For so long it was us trying to get him to slow down, now he's too slow. His canter felt amazing when I pushed him forward, and he started to really oscillate his neck and use his back!! He's never wanted to use his back at the canter before. I can see this being a game changer for us.
The trot got better and better as we rode. We played with adding more energy and he stepped right up and I got closer to his super fancy trot. I just love how he feels when he's so INTO the bridle and really lifting over his back. Makes me feel like passage is a half halt away, which it is absolutely not, but that's the trot I want.
Unfortunately the lesson wasn't as good as the horse. I was really hoping to be able to get into the nitty gritty details of the connection on the left side (I think it's a right rein problem and I want help fixing it, it's so similar to what Rico did so I know it's me) and gain some tools on how to improve the lateral work. It was more about how to deal with his bad behavior (that he wasn't doing). But I did take some good things away.
She pointed out that I needed to make sure that he lowers his neck when I take back on the inside rein- this will help when he does go to bolt because his neck comes up when he does it. I also need to be quicker on the uptake when he does stick his head in the air- something I haven't been as quick about lately and I know that's a problem for the dressage too. He can get 1-2 steps in of WTF IS THAT before I manage to put him back where he needs to be.
I was feeling okay about it because he was just looking, not bolting, but a) he can look with his head down and b) when he does start bolting again, I'll have more control. Not to say that he can't bolt with his chin on his chest, because that has happened. If horse wants to bolt, horse bolts. I'm working on turning that off or toning it down, rather than trying to prevent it physically, though that is important too.
Lateral work is also really important, and I got a nice lecture that by six, he should be better at it. I had to defend myself because he's not naturally talented at it, he's not been ridden consistently, and with soft tissue injuries, lateral work can be detrimental, so even when I could ride him this summer, we didn't start the lateral work until the fall.
So yeah he should be further along for six if I've been riding him since he was three... but I started riding him at the end of his three year old year and he's actually not even six yet. So it's two years, with the first four months not doing any lateral work because he was too green, and then toss in another break for nine months for suspensory rehab. And this winter we had about 2-3 months where we were dicking around with our question mark rehab and trying not to get swept away by all the rain.
But he still needs to be better at the lateral work. I guess I just need to harass him more. I didn't get any new tools for that, but it's not like I've never taught a horse lateral work before. I'll just keep plugging away. There was no mention of the quality of his lateral work (other than that it needed to be more prompt to my aid), so I'm hoping that means that it looked okay.
I think he's over angled in the right shoulder in, and over bent left. And I think his leg yield right is steep enough but is crooked, while his left leg yield is more correct but less steep. But I guess it was fine enough. I do know that my pickiness levels can be a bit much sometimes.
| After our ride over the weekend |
The thing that I can't let go of, is that after talking about how he did have these tendencies, my instructor seemed nervous. And that freaks me out. I've worked with a lot of riders with fear, and the worst thing you can do to them is make them feel that they SHOULD be scared while they're riding. Either through tone of voice, or the words they use or the actions, everything needs to be soothing and no big deal. If it's seriously a dangerous situation, help me get to a point where I can get off and then tell me to get off and talk to me about it. Because if I get from an instructor that I should be scared, I get scared, then he gets scared, and then he's more likely to do the stuff that scares me, which is scary and I don't want it to happen.
I was a bit worried about riding on Tuesday night. It was supposed to be warm, and I did my best to push those thoughts and some other family drama out of my head and just continue to enjoy my horse. Spoiler alert (since this post was intitially written to go out Monday), he was AMAZING, we test rode T3 and worked on lateral work and walk-trot transitions.
I really didn't want some of the language used in the lesson and the focus on the bolting to cause me to question riding right now. I've actually been enjoying this horse for the last week. It's been really fun. I know it's not forever. I know the bolting will come back or he'll scare me in some other way and I'll lose confidence. I know that there's a good chance (actually no chance, this is 100% true) he's way, WAY too much horse for me and that I should sell him. But being able to ride him right now has been fun. And I'd hate for one lesson to derail that. It's fine if he derails it by being an asshole. It's fine if I derail it by getting nervous again. But I don't want to let an outside source derail it.
I think I might find an event trainer to ride with instead. I need someone who laughs off his behavior and makes me feel like it's no big deal. Stop telling me (however inadvertently) that my fear is justified, people!
I had a coach once that got me really nervous about jumping doing what you described above. But I've also gotten very annoyed at instructors that, after I've explained Carmen's issues (90 degree spin, leap and bolt) but they don't see it dismiss it as me being nervous. I'm sure that they have worked with a lot of middle aged women who are nervous but I'm not typially nervous.
ReplyDeleteSo I guess it's about the partnership and builidng on it. Good luck finding another one more suited. I think the eventing coach sounds like a good idea.
I can definitely see it going both ways, like you said. As an instructor, it's super hard to balance that. On the one hand, you want to take someone's fear seriously, because even if it's not scary to you, you don't want to dismiss them. But on the other hand, you also don't want to make the fear worse by being like "you SHOULD be scared, I'm even scared just watching you!" since that doesn't help either! Especially not in the moment with a sensitive horse/rider. I mostly just tell people to tell me how they're feeling, let me know if things scare them. Since TC never once scared me that day, but the instructor totally did!
DeleteI also know my fear is about 99% irrational (not that it's not real fear, just that I'm not actually in danger). I can sit what he hands me and he's only done a couple things that I was truly afraid of myself getting hurt. Most of my fear comes from the fear of the unknown- "sure I can handle xyz, but what if he does THIS THING that he's never done before." And that's silly. I'm trying to be more in the moment with him and it's helping a lot.
I'm going to experiment with some different trainers, I really don't *need* one, but I love taking lessons. Hopefully I can find someone who respects that I do get nervous sometimes (and won't harp on me for it) but also doesn't validate my fear too much where I feel like I SHOULD be afraid. It's a tough balance!
I love event riders for just that reason. They laugh off naughty and keep working, and I don't see a lot of other trainers do that.
ReplyDeleteYessss I audited a trainer recently who would be perfect for me like that. Didn't get scared when the horses acted up, just told the riders to ignore the horses and put them to work. Unfortunately she's not around very often and is also really expensive, so I probably couldn't swing riding with her very much at all. Oh well. One day I'll find the right trainer! Or actually next time I'm just going to lie and say that he's perfect all the time. Then if a bolt happens I'll be like "oh yeah, he does that all the time" and we can deal with it then lol
DeleteI loved my Indiana trainer for that. She was super good at not stressing naughty behavior, and just getting back to work. "Yeah, I know your horse just kicked you in the calf and bolted. Why did you drop your core, though?" Lol. I appreciated that so much!
Deleteside note this song was running through my mind as I read your post:https://youtu.be/KWWRGmWKkfI :) I also have a horse with a bad reputation at the barn, and have experienced several trainer reactions, and it makes a HUGE difference when you have someone rooting for you and your horse!
ReplyDeleteI'm at work but I'll listen on my lunch break! Ugh I hate having a horse with a bad reputation. I mean I get it, people at the barn have seen us fight and have seen me cry quite a lot. But I feel like when I'm paying an instructor, they need to be able to let go what other people have said and just help me with what is happening in that moment. I'm fairly certain that the rumors got to her, the lesson was not what I had expected. Oh well, I'm totally lying next time haha
DeleteFinding a trainer that can appropriately deal with fear is tough! My last and current trainers are fantastic in that way. I can say "Such and such thing scares the shit out of me," and instead of dismissing my fear or playing into it, they take things down a notch and help me work through it piece by piece so that I can be successful at whatever thing I am scared of doing.
ReplyDeleteYah I think this trainer would have been better suited had I actually been scared that day. It totally has happened with him, he's way too much horse for me. But I was disappointed in being taught like I either a) already was afraid when I wasn't and b) should be afraid based on what she heard about my horse (because he wasn't doing anything). I think it's important as a trainer to keep in mind that the rider maybe has some fear issues (so be careful asking them to add more power/etc) but not make the lesson all about that if the rider has assured you that they aren't nervous. A few times I had to say "he's fine, he's not going to do anything" when she seemed to get nervous and snapped to get him bending or whatever. I also had to be like "I'm not scared of him but you're making me nervous!" lol just not a good match.
Deleteugh sorry the trainer kinda.... did the opposite of some of what you were hoping for in the lesson. that kinda sucks. i hate walking away from a lesson trying to hard to pick out the good - any good - from the instruction... love the idea about an event trainer tho. but really i just love your attitude about really focusing on the here and now with the horse, whatever may come later.
ReplyDeleteYah I'm glad I only took a short lesson! I did get some stuff out of it I guess, like a kick in the ass about his lateral work and pushing him more forward at the canter, but you're right, I kinda had to dig for that.
DeleteFingers crossed this is the end of it and it's smooth sailing from now on, but I feel like I'd be delusional to believe that! I'm just enjoying him for now :)
My favorite instructor has helped me through numerous fear issues (not with Hampton, but with another horse who was big and would leap and bolt). She said to me, "I have tools to keep you safe." That gave me SO MUCH confidence! Yes, he may act up but I have some tools to deal with it.
ReplyDeleteYah definitely! I feel like I need someone who will teach to whatever is happening in that moment- if he's being good, dig into my position and issues tracking left, if he's being bad, help me through it and give me more tools!
DeleteI 100% agree about wanting an instructor who is confident through naughtiness. I have more than enough fear and self-preservation instincts myself, I don't want a 3rd party adding to them. It almost doesn't matter whether the danger is real or not, if I'm sitting on a sensitive beast who can pick up on my fear, convince me that it's going to be okay no matter what.
ReplyDeleteAlso, my parents aren't horsey and have spent my life telling me that horses are going to paralyze or kill me so I need to counter that by having my trainer tell me that my horse's shenanigans are no big deal.
One of the best things I ever did was take a year of lessons with this super small time trainer who rode western pleasure of all things. At the time I had serious fear issues from a mare with both a bolting and bucking problem (she would bolt first, then buck). The local trainers who were more specific to my discipline were scared of my horse too and so were adding to the issue instead of helping me. CJ on the other hand was the best at getting me to just relax and ride my horse.
In my limited experience it seems like dressage trainers are more prone to being overly cautious than other types of trainers. The trainers I currently work with are good for teaching me dressage, but if I ever run into a serious fear issue again, I'm going to ditch them and find another person who can keep me chill, regardless of what their discipline is.
I agree with you 100%! First step should always be to keep the rider safe- it's fine if my horse scares you or if you think I shouldn't be on him because he's dangerous or something, but don't convey that while I'm riding because that makes me nervous which makes me less safe!
DeleteI have had more dressage trainers who had fear issues than any other discipline. But I've never really had a horse that intimidated them. It could be that when Rico was young and dumb, I was with a super bold trainer and when I got to the point where I switched trainers, he had calmed down. Now I need to find someone who both respects my fear (since it does exist) but doesn't make every lesson about it! Or I'll just train my own damn horse :)
I've totally experienced that issue, but more from the soundness side. I stress that I have an old ass broken horse, because, well, he is. I don't want a trainer to think he's being lazy on his right hind, as he's really not. Usually that's a legitimate concern and pressing the issue will cause a fight. However, don't treat my horse like some geriatric old fart incapable of doing anything. He still has a job, and I still expect him to do it. I mean, same for me. I have some lingering injuries and problems (I'm a 30yr old lifelong athlete for god's sake!) but that doesn't mean that I don't hold myself to a standard.
ReplyDeleteFeels like a trainer who is maybe not comfortable listening to a student or adapting to the type of training the student needs, and that's just overall not a great trainer (unless you're a perfect fit for them! Ha!).
Really impressed at the changes with you and TC. The stress on relaxation and no pressure seems to be exactly what both of you need. I think maybe you should put a little umbrella in his water bucket to keep channeling those zen beachy vibes. ;)
SO many horses are 16 and being ridden dressage and suck at lateral work (*cough* mine) I don't think it was fair for you to be chewed out for that especially with his time off.
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