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| Omg this horse, right? |
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| This canter is insane |
I've never been good at that with my horses.
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| I love that I can sit like this on him now |
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| NECK MUSCLES, also it's finally time to lower my stirrups! Yay! |
It's not even that my horses are high maintenance. Okay Rico was, but it's hard to argue that my barefoot, pasture-living baby horse is (although he will get shoes soonish). I just know from experience that the more careful I am with their care, the more likely I am to a) stay safe b) stay sane and c) feel good about how I treat my animals.
And let me just say that I'm not one to judge other people against my own standards. Like I only feel safe riding with a helmet but I'm not about to go yell at someone at my barn who always rides without one. I don't like having my horse in a box stall (unless he was literally ONLY in to eat food), but I know that a lot of people think it's fine and I wouldn't think that they were bad horse owners because of it.
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| He's getting a lot more scope to his gait, all the better to murder my back when I can finally sit his trot |
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| His canter is a touch lateral on this side and he gets a little retracted, working on it |
So in making my boarding decision for TC, I need to feel like my decision is going to keep both of us sane, both of us safe, and make me feel like I'm giving him the best care that I am physically, emotionally, and financially able to. Let me break it down.
I need a boarding situation that is safe for both of us. One part of this means that I feel safe from being injured. This could mean that I won't say, board my 4 year old at a barn where I have to cross a busy road in the dark, or I won't board at a place that doesn't have a decent amount of rules about safety (like if your dog is going to chase my horse, keep it on a leash).
I also need to feel like TC is safe from injury. So no barbed wire fencing (there are SO many places here with barbed wire) or bad footing either in the arena or in the paddock/pasture that could lead to a pulled tendon. I also need to make sure that it's not a situation where I feel like TC would become unsafe for me to handle, for example a barn that didn't have a safe place to longe, or a stable situation where I feel like he might lose his shit on me.
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| He's a little btv here, but it's such an improvement in how he is lifting through his withers, when he develops more through his back, he'll be able to open up that throatlach better |
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| Canter needs massive work (and the left more so than the right) |
I need a boarding situation that keeps both of us sane. I want to feel like I trust the barn manager/owner to notice if something is going wrong. I want to be able to go on vacation without ruining it by worrying about my horse. I also want TC to feel comfortable and happy. In a place where he is all by himself or cooped up- he might go nuts. I want him to feel comfortable with where he lives, since he'll be there a lot more than I am.
I want to feel like I'm doing my best in terms of choosing a boarding situation. There are limited options and all have pros and cons. Part of keeping me sane is knowing every day, while I'm at home, work, or out, that I chose the best situation for him out of all of my options.
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| Ahhh that hind leg, he is figuring it out |
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| So much suspension at the canter |
That doesn't mean eating ramen every day and selling my car in order to pay for my horse to be at some fancy place. I certainly am not putting him on all the best supplements and getting the best farrier in the area and doing chiro/massage every other week for him. I could always be taking care of him at a much higher level. But for me, there is a minimum requirement that I need to hit for me to not be rushing out of the office to rescue him from his living situation.
I have to make sure I'm doing the best for him physically- the location is a good place for HIM to be, he is safe and feels comfortable. I have to make sure I'm doing my best for him emotionally- that I don't put him in a place that, say, is so far away from my job that I frequently get to the barn so frustrated by the traffic that I'm more likely to have shitty rides.
I also need to do my best for him financially- I can't just throw him at some shitty barn to save money (the board varies drastically in this area from 250/mo to over 800/mo), that isn't okay in my mind. I don't want to cripple myself financially though, I mean obviously there is a limit, but I'm not going to sacrifice any of the above to save money.
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| One of my favorite pictures :) |
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| He's so sproingy at the canter |
So where does this leave me? I'm not moving into my new barn on Sunday.
Unfortunately there was a mistake in communication that I take full responsibility for, where I thought we were getting a stall and paddock and what we were actually getting was a box stall with very limited (<1 hour per day) turnout. For me, this is not enough for him. He is four years old and has been living in group pasture for all of his life. To take him from that into a box stall does not feel right to me. They've been very nice to offer me additional situations that would not be permanent. And while that would be fine if he were Rico, I don't think shuffling him around for the next few months would be good for him. So I am backing out.
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| He is the best |
I feel terrible saying no this late in the game. But I do not feel good about moving him into a situation that a) is going to make me feel like I'm not doing my best for him, b) is possibly going to make him very upset and angry, which c) may put my well-being in danger if TC is feeling cooped up and takes it out on me.
But it's an amazing barn and I was looking forward to being there in the future. I will be on the wait list for a permanent stall and paddock.
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| So tricky at the canter, but I love that he's trying |
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| Sometimes he's low like this and I'm totally fine with it, given what his tendencies are. His throatlach isn't too closed and he is letting me access his back. |
He is in his pasture and so doesn't need a ton of riding to keep him fit enough for my short rides. I am forgetting about showing or making progress for the next few months. I would rather give up what would have been my awesome 15 minute barn commute and have to drive nearly 3 hours round trip to see him than give up his and my sanity and potentially put myself or him in danger.
Luckily, being up here means I can see barns each day after work. I've already got a few places to check out that are maybe a little further away than I had initially wanted to be (but still closer than my current barn!). But again I'm willing to sacrifice my commute to keep this horse, and therefore myself, happy. I just want to do my best as a horse owner, whatever that means to me in particular.
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| So much fun that I can't stop looking at his neck, ugh |
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| See his left front hit before his right hind? Lateral. But I think he will get better with more strength and confidence |
What do you guys think? Do you have specific requirements like this, or are you a little more laid back?
With all this drama happening, I started feeling... not regret from purchasing him, but just remembering that owning is so much more stressful than leasing. Like I could go lease a horse at a barn that only offers box stalls and I wouldn't think twice about it because it wasn't my decision to put the horse there.
I'm not one to lease though, especially at my level, it's hard to find someone who won't take advantage of me even a little bit. Been there, done that.
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| He's so light |


















Ugh, communication fails like that are AWFUL. Barn shopping isn't much better. I hope something suitable opens up for you soon, but good for you to stick to your principles. Sometimes I feel that in insisting on full turnout I am the most high maintenance of low maintenance horse owners. It's kind of tough maintaining a show horse who lives on pasture, but I'll never do anything else now that I've seen the benefits of full turnout on the body, foot, and mind of the horse.
ReplyDeletePlease mail me your barn! It's so tricky to find everything you want, and then it's like, what do I make sacrifices for? Sacrifice my commute time and be at an amazing barn? Sacrifice the covered arena (as El Nino comes in, um maybe not) and have him in a larger paddock/pasture? Barn shopping sucks!
DeleteFortunately, we don't have box stalls here in the southern part of the central valley. It's way too hot for that. All of our "stalls" are usually 12 x 24 (or longer) pipe fencing, which is doable for most horses, especially if they have an owner who does turn out or rides most days. Your criteria sounds almost exactly like my own, but since I have at least 8 - 10 choices within 15 minutes of home, my drive time is super high on my list. So while there are another dozen or so places across town, I wouldn't even consider them since I can have an almost perfect situation within ten minutes.
ReplyDeleteI've done every boarding situation possible (except a 12 x 12 box stall) over the past 20 years (as an adult). For seven years I boarded somewhere with really small stalls - 12 x 24, but since it was 5 minutes from my house and the caretaker lived on the property and took care of my horses like his own, I dealt with the small space.
Right now I am in boarding heaven: private residence with a four stall barn. My "stalls" are 24 by 36 with a pseudo inside stall and a large outdoor area. I have a huge arena, feed storage area, I can buy my own supplemental hay, tack room, truck and trailer parking, and on and on. The neighbor's turn out, which is less than 30 yards from Izzy's gate, is free for me to use whenever I'd like. It's a lovely place and the best part is that it is exactly a ten minute drive from my house. Best of luck in finding your own boarding heaven.
Ugh I chose the wrong part of California! Your boarding options sound so ideal. If I could zip out to the barn before work, during lunch, and after work relatively easily, I'd probably be fine with a smaller place as long as I could keep him out as much as possible. There's also a barn kind of in the opposite direction from where I live that does overnight turnout and has 12x36 paddocks with a cover, which would be fine. But it's too far :/
DeleteWow ten minutes to the barn sounds amazing. I'm hoping to stay within 20 minutes of home. Traffic out here is terrible so I'm also trying to be at a place where I can get there without the highway, but that isn't seeming very possible anymore!
Man, I feel a little like a schmuck! My horse has a 12x12 box stall that he spends half the day in, and I'm happy about it. I'd love for him to have a dutch door out the back with a run, but that's not really how things are done around here.
ReplyDeleteMy barn has incredible care (the perks of boarding at a 4* event rider's barn), and for me, that trumps most everything (esp after a winter boarding situation that went bad last year). The horses are out at night in the summer and during the day in the winter. When the weather permits in spring and fall, they come in to eat and are put right back out. Sometimes the weather doesn't permit and they spend a day or more in their stalls (ie when it was -10 here for several days in a row, before wind chill). They get as much hay as they will eat, and are fed a quality grain. They're taken care of like they're all 4* horses, and if they need something, they get it, end of story. There aren't any frills, but there aren't any dumb things either (I've seen some ridiculous things like feeding hay in turnout out of garbage cans nailed to fence posts so the hay doesn't sit on the ground...)
The barn I board at is on over 130 acres, so we have miles of trails on our own property, and there's miles of trails on the adjacent property... we don't have the best outdoor footing, but it's huge and it works and we're not going to pull tendons. One thing we're missing is an indoor arena. Around here, riding in the winter and accomplishing anything is hard to do without an indoor. It's on the list to be built for next year, so yay!
I hope your find your ideal place soon!
I may have gone for it if it was only half the day like your barn! That's not bad at all, especially if a lot of the time when they're in, they're eating. It was the 45 minutes of turnout that bothered me most. If I couldn't make it out or if I wanted to go somewhere for a weekend, he'd be stuck in there, poor pony.
DeleteHaving trails is sooo nice, I'm really hoping my new barn has trails. Some of them I'm looking at don't and it makes me a little sad. I don't have the ability to haul out just yet.
I don't understand how people don't feel cruel only allowing 45 min of turnout. There's a ton of barns near me that either don't turn out at all (they have field and you have to turn your own horse out and bring him in- but you can't leave him out without being there), or they turnout for a ridiculously short time.
DeleteYou've touched on SO MANY POINTS that I totally agree with! In my opinion, horses should be outside as much as possible, at least 12 hours per day. On grass. With plenty of room to move around and be horses.
ReplyDeleteLuckily, my trainer/BO believes in at least half day turnout and the horses are turned out in large, well-maintained, grass fields. Roger is a horse that thrives on turnout, so while we don't have an indoor, the barn is small enough that trainer/BO can keep a close eye on everyone and catch any weirdness before it becomes something serious. I feel totally comfortable with her care, as all the horses are shiny and happy. Trainer/BO also keeps the footing as perfect as possible, and we have 2 grass rings to ride in, in addition to the regular stone dust arena.
With that said....I don't think I would have boarded at that barn either, as I don't believe that horses are meant to live in boxes. But that's just my two cents. Hopefully you'll find a better situation soon!
I totally agree with you! I wish we had grass out here. But the more room, the better. After seeing what pasture did for Rico (he was in a stall/paddock while I was riding him to prevent injury- I think it was about 50'x50' so it wasn't small but it's no pasture), I'm sold. Rico's tendons look a thousand times better now than they did when he was on the paddock. Granted he is also not working, so that's part of it. But I think moving around is the best thing for him.
DeleteHopefully I find a barn today!
I've been a huge believer in strictly pasture board, until I got Katai. She's so metabolically challenged that I've come to the conclusion that it's just better for her to be in a stall, with hay and a dirt turnout. I agree about turnout for as long as possible and she has something like 8-9 hours and then once she's brought in and finished her supper I show up and work her so she's actually out of her stall for closer to 10-11. I'm still getting over some guilt but she's been healthier on stall than pasture in the past and unfortunately around here there just aren't places where she can be out 24/7 and not have access to grass. I agree completely that only an hour or so of turnout just isn't fair to the horse especially when they are coming from being out 24/7.
ReplyDeleteThe barn that I just moved to has amazing care and the woman who manages it actually truly cares about every horse and is willing to take the time to train rather than just muscle a horse if they aren't being completely well behaved about something. I didn't realize how important that was until I didn't have it but from now I on will make sure that whoever is handling my horse is willing to take the time to actually make sure they are healthy, happy, and adjusted. Maybe that makes me a high maintenance owner haha.
Some horses definitely do better in. My vet actually said that they tend to keep muscle on better due to not wasting energy wandering around so much. I'm not sure how much I buy that, but it's so much easier to control their diet. TC needs more hay than the average pasture horse since he's big and in work, so right now I have to sit with him while he eats his rice bran each day. Definitely a pain when I'm hungry and want to go home. Ideally I'd like to find a large private paddock for him, I think it's the best of both worlds.
DeleteYour barn sounds amazing! That much turnout and a great manager, hopefully I find something similar.
ugh how frustrating. tho i'm actually a little relieved that it was just a miscommunication, rather than 'wow i got there and they were all CRAZY.' still doesn't really help you in the short term... but at least you know you're making the best choice for your horse? fingers crossed something suitable works out soon!
ReplyDeleteOh I know! I realized how it had sounded- like I had seen the place and ran screaming. I love the barn, it's so well maintained and the horses look happy. I just couldn't do 12x12 stall with very limited turnout!
DeleteI feel good about my decision even if my commute yesterday sucked. I wrote his breeder a check for board so he's good there until Oct 1. Ali said she'd ride him for me if I needed it too, so nice to have a barn that is so supportive! Now to hurry up and develop teleportation so I could have him there forever.
I like to think of myself as a pretty laid-back horse owner. I prefer my horses to be out on pasture 24/7, and Moe and Gina both lived this way until last year. (They spent winter 2013 living in a field next to cattle without a shelter and were blanketed maybe twice. Both looked like yaks, but seemed perfectly happy and were in good weight!)
ReplyDeleteThey are currently at a barn where they're each turned out in a couple acre paddock with one other horse for 8-12 hours a day and spend the rest of the day in a big box stall with a dry lot off the back of it. I feel fine about this, because both of them seem happy and are getting excellent care.
You know what's best for TC and you're looking out for his best interests! Hopefully something will work out soon, but it sounds like his breeder is taking good care of him!
TC lives at his breeder's like Moe and Gina in 2013! He's never had a blanket and doesn't have a shelter except for like two trees. He'll be clipped and blanketed this year, probably living inside, so it will be a new experience for him.
DeleteYour barn sounds great! With half day turnout, they get to be a horse for a while, then come in and relax. Rico kind of does that schedule for himself (he has a stall, paddock, and pasture all attached), about half the day he is out in pasture wandering around, and then he comes into his stall to take a nap and for dinner. I like that idea because TC needs extra food and being in pasture 24/7 makes feeding him extra a little tricky for me.
His breeder is so awesome, I felt bad telling them that he'd be staying, but they were happy to have him for longer!
Sounds like the right call for you at the time for sure. I wouldn't be ok with 45 minutes of turnout a day, but I'm not in your geographic area.
ReplyDeleteI'm actually not wild about grass turnouts--a certain Mr OTTB loses shoes with any wet/dry change, so dew on grass is a no go for us. And he does get locked in his stall in inclement weather for the same reason. Otherwise, it's a stall with a run and about 4-5 hours of turnout a day and he's doing fine. :-)
It's so dependent on the horse, though.
Yah I can't handle the idea of being at work and having him stuck in a stall. The barn is huge so obviously a lot of people are fine with it. Honestly if TC was older or used to being in a box stall, I probably wouldn't have minded it as much (I still wouldn't like it but I might have done it for a month while I looked elsewhere) but he's so young and used to being out that I feel like it would be a bad situation for him.
DeleteThat's interesting to know about grass. We get grass each spring for maybe a few months before it all turns brown and dies. I haven't had issues with Rico pulling shoes but he's only been out on pasture for one year now.
That's unfortunate. My non-negotiables are my horse's happiness (vague, but important), at least 8-10 hours of turnout and safe fencing/footing.
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